The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Karolum et Karlomannum et Gislam" children of "Pipinus rex…ex Bertrada regina". Einhard names "Karlomannum…et Pippinum atque Grifonem" as the three sons of "Karlus maior domus" when recording the latter's death. Thankmar (-before 30 Nov 912). If you go to Text Search - then to Occupation and there enter Charlemagne, those Gateway Ancestors descending from Charlemagne will appear. Generation 5. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Hlotharium Pipinum et Hludovicum Rotrudim et Hildegardim" as children of "Hludovicus ymperator…ex Yrmingardi regina". Although it is clear that the imperator who was the father of Alpaïs was either Charlemagne or Louis the Pious, there is no general agreement as to which man was her father. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192, A3.B5.C11. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B, A3.B4.C2.D1.E11. He was crowned PEPIN King of Italy 15 Apr 781 at Rome, named King of the Lombards and installed at Pavia, ruling under the regency of Adalhard. Graf Otto had one illegitimate daughter by Mistress (1): A3.B4.C2.D1.E2F8). The Chronicon Hildesheimense records that "Gerbergam sororem [Hathamod%C3%A6]" succeeded her sister as second abbess of Gandersheim. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#LouisIEmperorB, A3.B5.C6 LOUIS (-Frankfurt-am-Main 28 Aug 876, bur Kloster Lorsch). There are 270 of them. She arrived at the imperial court before 814. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#PepinIItalyB, A3.B4.C6 Theodrada ([800/810-after 810)]. :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192], His third wife was Fastrada, married 784, died 794. m thirdly (Worms Oct 783[71) FASTRADA, daughter of RADULF Graf & his wife --- (-Frankfurt-am-Main 10 Oct 794, bur Mainz, St Alban). The Annales Xantenses record the marriage in Feb 819 of "Ludewicus imperator" and "Iudith". In European genealogy, a descent from antiquity (DFA or DfA) is a proven unbroken line of descent between specific individuals from ancient history and people living today. The Annales Weissemburgenses record the birth "802 aut 803 15 Kal Iul" of Drogo. At the partition of territories agreed at Thionville in 806, he was designated sovereign of Aquitaine, Gascony, Septimania, Provence and southern Burgundy. A3.B4.C2.D1.E2F6). One possible illegitimate son: A10.B2 Theodoric (b. Thankmar. There have been attempts to trace Charlemagne’s descent from one of Imperial Rome’s well-documented senatorial families based in southern Gaul. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 903 of "Hadwih com". Anseflede, Anstrudis, Adaltrudis & the Mayors of the Palace of Neustria, Cleaning the lineages between FRANCUS and CHARLEMAGNE, Charlemagne's marriages & heirs from Charles Cawley's 'Medieval Lands', The Making of Charlemagne's Europe: Legal documents surviving from the reign of Charlemagne, Charlemagne's marriages and heirs From Wikipaedia, Stewart Baldwin & Todd Farmerie's 'Henry Project', The Monk of Saint Gall: The Life of Charlemagne, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192''', http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata,_wife_of_Charlemagne, Charles the Younger (ca. I said something like this, but don't think the number was 8. GISELA ([819/822]-after 1 Jul 874, bur Cysoing, Abbey of St Calixtus). Using Ahnentafel numbering, his ancestry looks like this: In Charlemagne’s time, genealogists working under the patronage of the royal family claimed that Charlemagne had several connections to the Merovingian dynasty. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 885 of "Liutgart regina". She was taken from Italy to the imperial court in 807. Flodoard refers to "Ludowicus Alpheidi filie sue uxori Begonis comitis". Ruodhaidem CHROTHAIS [Rota%C3%AFde].Cawley: Madelgard, Mistress 3's daughter: 784. This page is a list of the European colonists and/or immigrants who came to America, who have ancestry that can be traced to the Emperor Charlemagne. Generation 3. The necrology of Prüm records the death "855 III Kal Oct" of "Lotharius imperator". 806. Emperor Louis proposed yet another partition in favour of his son Charles at the assembly of Aachen in 837, which was implemented at the assembly of Worms 28 May 839 when he installed his sons Lothaire and Charles jointly, the former taking all land east of the River Meuse, the latter everything to the west, and set aside the claims of his son Louis and the successors of his late son Pepin. "Hludowicus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster Gandersheim, naming "Brun et Otto nostri fideles comites…[et] Liutolf genitor eorum…[et]…Gerbirg soror eorundem comitum" by charter dated 26 Jan 877. He was crowned joint Emperor LOTHAIRE I in Jul 817 at Aachen, ruling jointly with his father. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne. The Annales Bertiniani record that "Richbote abbas…consobrinus regum, nepos…Karoli imperatoris ex filia" was among those killed in 844. Or was that number of 8 also speculative ? 345 – 382 AD) – however the trail is obscured by a lack of records in the 5th and 6th centuries. Emperor Louis crowned his son Lothaire as joint emperor at Aix-la-Chapelle in Jul 817, his primary status over his brothers being confirmed once more at the assembly of Nijmegen 1 May 821. Hildegard is named as sister of Charles by Nithard. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192, His first relationship was with Himiltrude. GISELA (781 before May-after 800, maybe after 814). m () GERBERGA, daughter of --- (-772 or after). “Ludolphus comes” donated property “in Daelhem et in Adonhusen” to Corvey monastery “pro filio suo Tancmaro”. Charlemagne’s wife Hildegard had had 9 children by the time she died at 23 or 24yrs] However, no indication has been found in primary sources of the age of these children when their father died. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne] Mistress (4): GERSWINDA ---. in Aquitaine, France. He refused to support his brother in suppressing a revolt in Aquitaine in Mar 769, but they were reconciled in early 770. ADELAIS (in Italy [Sep 773/Jun 774]-in Italy [Jul/Aug] 774, bur Metz, église abbatiale de Saint-Arnoul). The continuator of the Annales Petaviani record the birth in 757 of "Gislanæ". Einhard refers to Hildegard as "de gente Suavorum". [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne] m fourthly ([794/autumn 796]) LIUTGARD, daughter of --- (-Tours 4 Jun 800, bur Tours, église Saint-Martin). A History of Medieval Europe: From Constantine to Saint Louis. m ODA, daughter of BILLUNG princeps & his wife Aeda (-17 May 913). Einhard's Annales record that Emperor Louis chose "Huelpi comitis filiam…Judith" as his wife in 819 after "inspectis plerisque nobelium filiabus". http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192, 8. daughter . Welcome to Geni, home of the world's largest family tree. He lived at the court of Charlemagne. Mistress (1): ---. He died about 610 C.E. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege names (in order) "Berta…Chrodtrudh…Gisla…Rothaidh…Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king. Lastly, Udalrich [III] is recorded in charters dated 847 and 854, suggesting a birth date in the 820s assuming that he was adult at the time, which is inconsistent with Charles II "le Chauve" (born in 823) having arranged his parents' marriage. A8.B1 Alpaida (b.794) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne. She lived at her father’s court until his death in 814. The Casus Monasterii Petrishusensis records that "rex Francorum qui et imperator Romanorum" (which appears to indicate Charles II "le Chauve") gave his sister in marriage to "vir nobilissimo genere decoratus", that the couple had two sons to whom their uncle gave "in Alemannia loca…Potamum et Brigantium, Ubirlingin et Buochorn, Ahihusin et Turingen atque Heistirgou, Wintirture…et in Retia Curiensi Mesouch", and that one of the sons returned to France while the other "Oudalricus" retained all the property in Alamannia. His ancestry is unknown. He was exiled to the monastery of Saint-Médard de Soissons. Baronial Order of Magna Charta Society . It is possibly based on onomastic speculation from the use of the first name Richbod. The nature of this relationship is variously described as concubinage, a legal marriage, or a Friedelehe. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192, 7. daughter . Pepin, the Grandfather of Pepin I - Does he exist? Also, the following extract from The Descents from Antiquity Project. The Gesta Francorum records the death "818 V Non Oct" of "Irmingardis regina".  Flodoardus Remensis Historia Remensis Ecclesiæ IV, XLVI, MGH SS XXXVI, p. 448. "Gerburgis" is named sister of "Hathumod", whom she succeeded as Abbess of Gandersheim in 874. Widukind names "sorore regis quæ nupserat Widoni Thuringo…ex concubina nata". The Chronicon Centulensis records that “Angilbertus” married “regis filiam Bertam” and that they had “duos filios Harnidum et Nithardum”. She died from the after effects of childbirth, according to the epitaph of her daughter Hildegard. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#LouisIEmperorB. His nephew Bernard King of Italy, ignored in the Ordinatio Imperii, rebelled against his uncle, but was defeated and killed. iii) SUSANNA ([805/10]-). He succeeded in 775 as Emperor LEON IV. Lothaire(795-855) [Lothar] (795-Kloster Prüm 29 Sep 855, bur Kloster Prüm). Mistress (3): [MADELGARD] ---. He is named, and his parentage recorded, in the Gesta Mettensium, which specifies that he was born before his father married Queen Hildegard. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "VIII Kal Oct" of "Pipinus rex". Monk at Charroux 818. Robert I, Duke of Normandy (c1000-1035) 12. 2. He was chambrier, equivalent to viceroy, for Louis King of Aquitaine (son of Emperor Charlemagne). Using this reconstruction as a starting point, many other scholars have attempted to extend Charlemagne’s ancestry further, with varying degrees of success. That part of his DNA is essentially unknowable. Thegan names "filiam Hwelfi ducis sui, qui erat de nobolissima progenie Bawariorum…Iudith…ex parte matris…Eigilwi nobilissimi generic Saxonici" as second wife of Emperor Ludwig, specifying that she was "enim pulchra valde". He is named, and his parentage recorded, in the Gesta Mettensium, which specifies that he was his parents' third son, born a twin with Hlothar. Europäische Stammtafeln refers to two or three unnamed sons of Liudolf & his wife who died young, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. A possible reason is that the Wikipedia concubine, Amaltrud is the NN concubine of Cawley, whose daughter - Ruodhaid/Rotaide (784) actually looks like the same person as the concubine Madelgard's daughter Rothildis, who Cawley gives as born in the same year (784), and which Wikipedia doesn't duplicate. 807) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne] Note: Cawley thinks Theoderic was the only son, and Richbod was actually a grandson of Charlemagne through Fastrada’s daughter, Himiltrud. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B, A3.B4.C3 Adula ([800/810]-after 810). And of course, there’s no … Einhard's Annals record the king's marriage in 783 to "filiam Radolfi comitis natione Francam, nomine Fastradam". The other two counts named "Bardo" or "Bruno" have not been identified. :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192], A3.B2 Adalhaid (774), who was born whilst her parents were on campaign in Italy. The Annales Alamannicorum record "Ludolfus dux Saxoniæ avus Heinrici" among those who swore allegiance in 864. The Annales Fuldenses name "Brun ducem et fratrem reginæ, Wicmannum, Bardonem, alterum Bardonem et tertium Bardonem, Thiotherium, Gerrichum, Liutolfum, Folcwartum, Avan, Thiotricum, Liutharium" as those killed in battle in 880 in Saxony against "Nordmannis". Thietmar records that Heinrich was "born of the noble lineage of Otto and Hadwig". "Hludowicus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster Gandersheim, naming "Brun et Otto nostri fideles comites…[et] Liutolf genitor eorum…[et]…Gerbirg soror eorundem comitum" by charter dated 26 Jan 877. :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192]. No indication has been found of the name of Alpais's mother. Einhard names "Drogonem et Hugum" as sons of King Charles by his concubine "Reginam". Einhard names "Drogonem et Hugum" as sons of King Charles by his concubine "Reginam". [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192] CHROTHAIS [Rota%C3%AFde] (-after 800, maybe after 814). Charlemagne's mother brought a daughter Desiderius and married her to Charlemagne in 770 to forge an alliance with Lombard kingdom. 772–4 December 811), http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#_Toc480124608, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#PepinIItalyB, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#PepinIItaly, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#BillungMAeda, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#OttoErlauchtedied912, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#LouisIEmperorB, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#LouisIEmperorBhttp://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#LouisIEmperorB, http://www.dmgh.de/de/fs1/object/display/bsb00000870_00051.html?sor, Charles Cawley Medieval Lands: Franks, Carolingian Kings, http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazxs/gazxs46.html, http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazxs/gazxs46.htm, Medieval Kingdoms of Western Europe Project List. 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